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Every Vote Counts...Unless You Are A Democrat Voter!
By dtodeen(the infidel) on May 8, 2008 | In General | 11 feedbacks »
Link: http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/07/carter-michigan-and-florida-should-not-be-counted/
UPDATED!!! 11:04 AMI wonder how the voters in Michigan and Florida feel? From the party of "EVERY VOTE COUNTS" Well...not really!!
BURBANK, Calif. — Former President Jimmy Carter said Wednesday that delegates from Florida and Michigan should not be counted at the Democratic National Convention because they “disqualified themselves,” and he warned of a disaster if party insiders try to wrest the nomination from the candidate with the largest number of votes and state victories.
An attempt by so-called Democratic superdelegates to override the popular vote “would be an almost unacceptable thing,” Carter told Jay Leno on “The Tonight Show.”
If a candidate has a clear edge in votes, state-by-state wins and delegates claimed at caucuses and primaries, “I can’t imagine that the superdelegates would go against them,” Carter said. “It would be a catastrophe for the party.”
Carter’s comments came a day after the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, in which Barack Obama padded his delegate lead over Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the tight race the judgment of superdelegates — elected officials and party insiders who can vote as they like at the party’s August nominating convention — will almost certainly be decisive.
11 comments
Comment from: darwin [Visitor]
"Every Vote Counts...Unless You Are A Democrat Voter!"
True!
If they wanted every vote to count they wouldn't have these "super" delegates. Their job is to pick whoever has the best chance of winning the election, regardless of what the people want.
Of course sometimes if you're a democrat your vote doesn't count, but I think they make up for it when you die and you're able to vote like a gazillion times as a dead person.
True!
If they wanted every vote to count they wouldn't have these "super" delegates. Their job is to pick whoever has the best chance of winning the election, regardless of what the people want.
Of course sometimes if you're a democrat your vote doesn't count, but I think they make up for it when you die and you're able to vote like a gazillion times as a dead person.
05/08/08 @ 10:21
Comment from: Jenn [Visitor] · http://www.screwliberals.com
Ahhhhh..... this whole thing is worthy of a fat bowl of popcorn and a comfy chair.
05/08/08 @ 10:56
Comment from: kris [Visitor] · http://thisisstokenewington.wordpress.com
The Democrat Party is run by a shower of muppets.
Howard Dean couldn't run a bath properly. Can you imagine what America would be like had he been elected president?
Fucking hell.
Howard Dean couldn't run a bath properly. Can you imagine what America would be like had he been elected president?
Fucking hell.
05/08/08 @ 13:35
Comment from: darwin (will lead the revolt) [Visitor]
"Couldn't be worse than what Bush has done to the world."
The sheer idiocy of this comment deserves to be immortalized somewhere as a reminder of how the left ignores the tyrants, thugs, dictators and true atrocities in today's world in an effort to have us join them.
Where the hell has the higher brain function gone in these idiots? Inquiring minds want to know ...
The sheer idiocy of this comment deserves to be immortalized somewhere as a reminder of how the left ignores the tyrants, thugs, dictators and true atrocities in today's world in an effort to have us join them.
Where the hell has the higher brain function gone in these idiots? Inquiring minds want to know ...
05/08/08 @ 14:32
Comment from: Gawfer [Visitor] · http://gawfer.net
"G - explain the oxymoron?"
Democracy=1 person, 1 vote, every vote counts as 1, yet the democrat party has created the concept of super-delegates whose votes hold more wieght than the average Joe, effectively silencing the vote of the people; hence, the oxymoron.
Democracy=1 person, 1 vote, every vote counts as 1, yet the democrat party has created the concept of super-delegates whose votes hold more wieght than the average Joe, effectively silencing the vote of the people; hence, the oxymoron.
05/08/08 @ 15:01
Comment from: Gawfer [Visitor] · http://gawfer.net
"Actually, our founding fathers created the electorial college, so take it up with them.
And are you really saying that the republicans don't have delegates? Are you REALLY saying that?"
Dang, you REALLY are stupid. I thought it was just an act but no, common sense evades you like you evade church.
Where in the body of my comments or anywhere else for that matter did I mention the Electoral College or state that the GOP doesn't have Delegates?
Idiot that you truly are, the idea of Super-Delegates was conceived after the 1968 presidential election, and was fully implemented in 1984 at 14%, but today is more along the line of 20%. Super delegates are voters who, because of an opinion that they have some sort of super knowledge and know better than the Democrat base, carry greater weight with their votes, thereby diminishing the value of your vote. The only reason Hillary is still in is because by showing a certain level of interest in the constituency, she hopes to secure those uncommitted super delegates and get the nomination in spite of NOT winning the popular vote.
And because you weren’t paying attention earlier, you have 1 week of detention every day after school.
And are you really saying that the republicans don't have delegates? Are you REALLY saying that?"
Dang, you REALLY are stupid. I thought it was just an act but no, common sense evades you like you evade church.
Where in the body of my comments or anywhere else for that matter did I mention the Electoral College or state that the GOP doesn't have Delegates?
Idiot that you truly are, the idea of Super-Delegates was conceived after the 1968 presidential election, and was fully implemented in 1984 at 14%, but today is more along the line of 20%. Super delegates are voters who, because of an opinion that they have some sort of super knowledge and know better than the Democrat base, carry greater weight with their votes, thereby diminishing the value of your vote. The only reason Hillary is still in is because by showing a certain level of interest in the constituency, she hopes to secure those uncommitted super delegates and get the nomination in spite of NOT winning the popular vote.
And because you weren’t paying attention earlier, you have 1 week of detention every day after school.
05/09/08 @ 15:37
Comment from: Gawfer [Visitor] · http://gawfer.net
"You talk about respect, then you call me an idiot and stupid. You are a hypocrite."
Perhaps. Or I have a good grasp of the obvious.
Your comment implied that the dems are the only one's who use the delegate system. Simple.
No, my comment didn't imply anything; it stated that Super-delegates belong to the democrat party. It is their stupid idea that devalues the individual vote.
"Your comment also implied one vote for one person, when the electorial college proves that's not the case in our national elections - only in our state and locals".
Again, I didn't imply anything. Why is it you believe you have this gift of mind reading???
Our electoral votes are determined by individual votes. I don't like it, but that's how it currently works.
"And I've already told you that I think that the super delegate thing is bs, as well as the delegate system in general. It was important to have delegates back when the the country was originally
founded: when it took days or weeks to count the votes, when there were no computers, or phones, or telegraphs, only horses. But now days we can tally popular votes in a single evening."
And once again, I will tell you I am in agreement with you on this topic.
So, because you've marginally clarified your question, your detention will be reduced to 3 days after school, and you will be cleaning chalkboard erasers.
Perhaps. Or I have a good grasp of the obvious.
Your comment implied that the dems are the only one's who use the delegate system. Simple.
No, my comment didn't imply anything; it stated that Super-delegates belong to the democrat party. It is their stupid idea that devalues the individual vote.
"Your comment also implied one vote for one person, when the electorial college proves that's not the case in our national elections - only in our state and locals".
Again, I didn't imply anything. Why is it you believe you have this gift of mind reading???
Our electoral votes are determined by individual votes. I don't like it, but that's how it currently works.
"And I've already told you that I think that the super delegate thing is bs, as well as the delegate system in general. It was important to have delegates back when the the country was originally
founded: when it took days or weeks to count the votes, when there were no computers, or phones, or telegraphs, only horses. But now days we can tally popular votes in a single evening."
And once again, I will tell you I am in agreement with you on this topic.
So, because you've marginally clarified your question, your detention will be reduced to 3 days after school, and you will be cleaning chalkboard erasers.
05/09/08 @ 16:19
Comment from: Gawfer [Visitor] · http://gawfer.net
Shawm,
I'm the same person here as I am anywhere else, as are you. You have shown utter disdain for me, Dave Jenn and anyone else who has taken time to address you. You have made a mockery of our blogs for the sake of your “research”, yet you seem to think you deserve my respect.
The more you comment here and at Jenn’s, the more disrespect I'll show you. Really, you mean nothing to me other than a thorn in the butt. Your arguments at best are half researched, and your talking points can be picked up for free over at your IDIOT sites.
I'm sorry, but you are really clueless. I don't think you're writing a book, I think you are starved for attention and because you were abused as a child, you think that by irritating people you'll get their attention, and it doesn't matter that it's negative attention; no, all you crave is attention. You are too stupid to realize if you had shown an ounce of respect, people would have still disagreed with you, but wouldn't have bashed you continually. I posted several comments consecutively attempting to explain that principle, but your elevated view of yourself prevented you from understanding.
Don't bother me anymore Sham; you’re not worth the head ache you cause.
Sorry Dave for the rant, but I’ve had enough.
I'm the same person here as I am anywhere else, as are you. You have shown utter disdain for me, Dave Jenn and anyone else who has taken time to address you. You have made a mockery of our blogs for the sake of your “research”, yet you seem to think you deserve my respect.
The more you comment here and at Jenn’s, the more disrespect I'll show you. Really, you mean nothing to me other than a thorn in the butt. Your arguments at best are half researched, and your talking points can be picked up for free over at your IDIOT sites.
I'm sorry, but you are really clueless. I don't think you're writing a book, I think you are starved for attention and because you were abused as a child, you think that by irritating people you'll get their attention, and it doesn't matter that it's negative attention; no, all you crave is attention. You are too stupid to realize if you had shown an ounce of respect, people would have still disagreed with you, but wouldn't have bashed you continually. I posted several comments consecutively attempting to explain that principle, but your elevated view of yourself prevented you from understanding.
Don't bother me anymore Sham; you’re not worth the head ache you cause.
Sorry Dave for the rant, but I’ve had enough.
05/09/08 @ 19:11
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